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Chicago City Council Meeting Live Commentary Thread - June 3, 2009

chicityclerk.com - 24 weeks ago - 6209 views

Chicago's city council is meeting again today, which means the Citizen will be hosting an open thread to watch the live videocast. Last week's thread hit 187 comments, some funny, some informative, almost all interesting. Join the humming throng.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

I just know I would have NO chance of getting in to Council chambers carrying a baseball bat.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Let's see if our aldermen debate the parking meter deal or its adoption process in front of Daley. If there is going to be actual debate or a divided vote this is our best chance today.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Burke acting as parliamentarian.

Is there enough finger pointing for everyone?

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Burke just moved to add the honorary resolutions to the omnibus, which will be voted on at the end of the meeting, in violation of our state Open Meetings Act.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Warner! Warner! Warner!

Compare and contrast the time & oratory expended on Warner Saunder cf. the major bond sales and public subsidies to follow, hopefully shortly.

Waguespack: Warner Suanders was one of the first people to call him after he became alderman to talk about safety concerns on his block.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Wauguspack just outed Warner Saunders as supporting him against Matlak.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

The East Bank Club is the official health club of this crowd.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

ooooo - this is good stuff, an actual debate

Stone v. Hairston

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

THANK YOU, Aldermen Flores - post proposals in time for the PUBLIC to read them

wow

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

An ordinance empowering police to break up drum corps on our streets is considered so hot-button a separate roll-call is demanded.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

another mystery solved - they're gonna get outta there in time for a late luncheon - a 3 hour work month in June ($110K/yr)

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

The good people of the 26th ward were denied representation due to Daley's failure to promptly appoint a replacement for Ocasio.

Next month: At least one new alderman.

The W. J. P. Banks roast?

Hugh, you're a trooper. I had some technical difficulties on my end that forced me to duck out this time. Will rally for a better showing next time around.

Have you been down there? It can get really loud down there. Still, it's dicey though because it touches on First Amendment issues which I would think could be challenged by a part of the Chicago Settlement.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Teens banging on plastic buckets are affecting our City Council's legislative priorities more than anyone. There's a lesson in there somewhere.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

It's odd that there is obviously disagreement on the absurdly low 15 day notice on lease deals, but Burke successfully added it to the omnibus, which means it will pass with the 48-0. No one asked for a separate roll call.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Stone for all his spirited blather passed up on his chance to go on record against this.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Burke: I move to adopt items 12 through 23 in the omnibus.

Secret code. Of course this is totally incomprehensible to you viewing from the gallery or from home unless have an agenda in front of you which of course you don't unless maybe you are an alderman.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Burke reads books.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Mell admits he doesn't watch the 10 o'clock news.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

I wonder if they will next honor television reporter Andy Shaw who is moving over to Executive Director of the Better Government Association?

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by lanarama 24 weeks 6 days ago

There's a Chicago journalism hall of fame? Doesn't appear to have a web site but I found this: http://www.ipcc.us/html/hall_of_fame.html

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

oh god, not the Irish poetry

Good point. Having a copy of the agenda downloadable from the City Clerk's Office could certainly help, plus a handy dandy code translator.

BTW I'm still getting dumped out after I post.

Gah. Ok.

Is this different from when this was happening months ago? I know you sent me that screenshot. That's different from what was happening in February, right?

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Under the Illinois Open Meetings Act we are entitled to an agenda posted on the internet 2 days in advance (due 10 AM Monday).

http://www.ag.state.il.us/government/openmeet.pdf

Yes. Back in February I had to do the entire login (not FB), it would refuse me and I'd have to ask for my password and get back in that way.

Now it just dumps me out. I sent you the screen shot of that a few days ago. Fortunately with FB it's easier to get back on.

And it's intermittent. Just now the comment above worked fine, but during the City Council meeting I kept getting dumped. When Frank and I were going back and forth on a different post, half the time I wasn't getting dumped out. Criminy, does that mean I can only comment with Frank and you!?

Okay, the comment above dumped me out again.

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by lanarama 24 weeks 6 days ago

It begins with a roll call....

It's on. It's so on. Quorem is present.

And now the prayers...

I think Hugh hit the nail on the head. There's going to be a lot of praise heaped on CPD today. The first act of the city council today is to commend some police officers who made a big drug bust.

The bust they're talking about is called Operation Washington. CPD is making its own news release videos apparently. Here's one about this particular operation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pyeiKyjq1o&feature=channel_page

Anyone have any news links about this?

It's interesting that they can honor Police Officers but our First Responders, including Firefighters, still don't have a contract. Seems a little hypocritic to ask people to put their lives on the line and not respect that legally.

And now they're talking about how awesome the firemen are.

How can they seriously and honestly (snort) say these things, thanking Police Officers and Firemen for putting their lives on the line, giving their lives in the line of duty, knowing there's no contract. They can do that because they know the First Responders won't strike.

Why won't they?

It is my understanding that it's a union agreement to not strike, probably because of the potential for mayhem.

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by adelle77 24 weeks 6 days ago

They're still rapping on how tough it is out there for cops looking to bust drug dealers.

What's the incentive for all these folks to repeat what's already been said? Do they keep transcripts and send them out to their constituents to show they've been active?

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

As cynical as I get, I think honoring our police and firefighters is one of the more important things the Council does. I resent the aldermen who skip it or wander in late. If you had the opportunity to speak, I think you would want to say "thank you" too. I also think the aldermen could make more time for it and for other business by meeting more than once a month.

Agreed. Remember that the actual firefighters and police officers are there at the meeting with their families, hearing how awesome they are. It's wonderful to recognize them for doing such a tough job.

I also agree. Usually the ones that often grab the limelight are not the firefighters and police officers doing the work on the street but the bureaucrats at the top of both departments, often the same ones that contibute to poor morale (at least in the CPD).

They're suspending the rules again to take turns riffing on a commendation, this time for fire fighters.

They mentioned a firefighter/EMT named Gregory Swanson. Here's some stories about the fire they're talking about:

Girl, 10, rescued from burning building
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/girl-10-rescued-from-burning-...

Chicago firefighters today rescued a 10-year-old girl from a burning apartment building in the North Austin neighborhood, officials said.

The blaze broke out just before 11:40 a.m. in a second-floor unit of a 3-story building in the 1600 block of North Central Avenue, according to Chicago Fire Department spokesman Kevin MacGregor.

Flames had spread to three rooms in the apartment, and when firefighters arrived they were told a child was trapped.

"While knocking down the fire, they started a search and located a 10-year-old child partially in bed," said MacGregor, who added the girl had suffered burns to her body and smoke inhalation.

"She was breathing on her own, but was having some problems," he said, describing her condition as she was carried from the building and firefighters and paramedics began treating her in the building's front yard.

The girl was taken by ambulance to West Suburban Medical Center in Oak Park in serious-to-critical condition. She has since been transferred to Loyola University Medical Center in Maywood, MacGregor said.

As a father, responding Chicago Firefighter/Paramedic Greg Swanson told media he was thankful they got the girl out of the burning building alive.

"Just glad that we were able to to bring the child still breathing...That has a good prognosis, " Swanson said outside the burned-out building.

Girl rescued from burning Chicago building
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6793822

The fire started at about 11:45 a.m. Sunday in the 1600 block of North Central Avenue.

Chicago firefighters say, when they arrived, heavy fire was coming from the second floor. When they went inside, the found the girl on a bed and brought her to safety.

One firefighter described his feelings on making such a rescue:

"I've got children of my own. Very excited, very nervous. Glad we were able to bring the child still breathing. She has a good prognosis," said the Chicago Fire Department's Greg Swanson.

Investigators say it appears the cause of the fire was electrical in nature.

The girl remained in critical condition Sunday night.

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

"CPD is making its own news release videos ... "

Historically the City of Chicago has a been pioneer in local govt-produced propaganda, famously commissioning a documentary in the wake of the 1968 Democratic convention.

Good point. I'd forgotten about the 1968 doc.

Here's the CPD Youtube channel, for those interested in hearing their perspective: http://www.youtube.com/chicagopolicedept

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by Hugh 24 weeks 6 days ago

Burke:I move the temporary suspension of rules for immediate consideration.

The rule they are suspending is a rule that says they stick to the so-called "agenda" (really an order of proceedings).

Under state law they can CONSIDER an item not on the agenda, but they may not vote on it.

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